to me it's ridiculous... it isn't transformed in any way, it's not the best Snoopy sculpt, slap a couple of X's on it and sell it for big $$$... Kaws is so uninteresting right now
never been a huge KAWS fan, but this really is just slapping X's on a figure. It's all about the brand now. Ron English has done more interesting things with Snoopy
@ tristan; i think some folks have been saying this about kaws stuff for a long time, its just a thousand times more obvious with this release. i know kaws collectors who believe this is ace and a must have
Tristan - first of all, I think it's okay to criticize an artist when you think he's doing bad work. but to be fair I've always been sticking it to him cause I don't like his work very much - to me it seems more like brand merchandise then art and Kaws himself more buisnessman then artist. this recent work just makes me feel more strongly about it.
MisterQuiche and lordsketch: I agree with both of you. I typed the above comment facetiously, but with an alarming amount of sympathy. I also feel like the stuff I ought to like is not as cool as it used to be. However, barely one percent of Kaws and Dunny and Bearbricks interest me. Kaws probably didn't think this Snoopy would falter, but many on this forum think so. And here I am, seeing the same qualities in this figure that made me think the rest of Kaws is overpriced and underwhelming.
When I started collecting blindboxes in Portland and Chicago (on the few chances I happened to be in either of those cities) I had no idea how much vinyl I had already missed, and four years later I'm feeling crotchety and curmudgeonly and bitter that the artists I liked then either aren't producing stuff that appeals to me or they have stopped making vinyl altogether, and the rest of the toys that I like are unattainable due to rarity, expense, or access.
And the rest of the rest look like total boring shit. The debate over whether something is genuine or bootlegged, commercial or art, goes beyond what I care about. I love my collection, and I'd like to refine it, nurture it like a little toxic garden of non-biodegradable treasures. But increasingly it looks like there is less out there for me. So I feel old and mean compared to my enthusiastic collecting self of just two years ago, and with artists like Kaws I just sit back feel cynical. People are upset about Kaws doing a lukewarm x'ed-out-eyed Peanuts character. I guess I'm upset about caring less about vinyl in general.
Does anyone else doubt the intrinsic value of their hobby?
@tristan; i know where you are coming from, i have shed most of my collection in recent years but continue to look and hope to find new artists / pieces that excite me. For me recently my focus has been more on the resin producers, small home runs, more artist interaction and a feeling of being involved as opposed to just buying a really really expensive snoopy or tweety bird. (obviously the only factor that ultimately matters is do i like it!)
@ monsterforge, Blend some ice cream in there and im right with ya!
Tristan - there are many many more toys I want then money I have so I don't have those problems :P there will always be crap, everywhere. But there is is still a lot of stuff I love.
I normal situations, at least for me, there will always be lots of stuff I would like to have, but cannot based on the price/availability etc. But it's all part of the fascination of collecting, buying fancy furniture and so on: would be a damn more boring if you could get all the stuff all at once!
We as consumers/collectors have the responsibility to buy and collect the stuff we really like and want to support, and I have started to think about his more and more lately. About the facts how well are the companies treating the artists, in which conditions are the toys made (I don't want no-one to risk/damage their health making my toys) and so on. As one individual you can't do miracles, know every little details of conditions, but you can act via your buing habits and I think I'll do that much more in the future. This all comes to Kaws and how I really think that his toys and art has started in the recent years become more and more about milking the buyers/collectors. That in my mind tells that he doesn't really appreciate his fans a lot.
I myself have cut up my collecting almost totally at the moment, but in the future I'll surely buy only something really special and might head towards buying more art pieces during the years. For example nice painting/canvas by some brilliant artist.
For me my toys, although I have a really small collection compared to many here & it doesn't include any "high-end" vinyl toys, are little pieces of art and all have something that visually & mentally describes somehow who I am and what makes me happy.
But that's my rant about these things. Hat tip to Tristan for starting the conversation. Now others - continue.
im always trying to get my hands on a new kaws piece as broke as i am but this will def be on the last of my list. still love his art though. im sure he has a method to his madness
I have to admit,it leaves me cold,except for my love of Snoopy,there's nothing to this. But again, this is one of the things I like about the toy-as-art world,we all have such different tastes. I wonder what Schultz would have made of it ? :)
Bland, Bland Bland. Kaws has wacked out with this little offering. Concentrating more on the dollars than the idea. I've seen more originality in a game of naughts and crosses.
MisterQuiche
185 83 831
13 years ago
this just makes me feel meh.... so what
lordsketch
381 1089 1433
13 years ago
to me it's ridiculous... it isn't transformed in any way, it's not the best Snoopy sculpt, slap a couple of X's on it and sell it for big $$$...
Kaws is so uninteresting right now
isuck
40 1999 75
13 years ago
@MisterQuiche: Stupidy strikes back!
J_Walrus
51 9 368
13 years ago
This is a preview shot, so this is definitely how it will look like. So no photoshops here.
Kaws is getting really lamer and lamer, and this release is such a lazy design that there ain't words to describe it.
mrpaul
118 160 32
13 years ago
Worst KAWS figure ever.
Tristan
343 224 314
13 years ago
Yeah, let's stick it to him now that he's not producing stuff we like! Yeah!
Nerdbomber
860 9 87
13 years ago
never been a huge KAWS fan, but this really is just slapping X's on a figure. It's all about the brand now. Ron English has done more interesting things with Snoopy
jeremyriad
566 356 245
13 years ago
Leave Peanuts to Ron English!
MisterQuiche
185 83 831
13 years ago
@ tristan; i think some folks have been saying this about kaws stuff for a long time, its just a thousand times more obvious with this release. i know kaws collectors who believe this is ace and a must have
jazzydan
499 646 2538
13 years ago
Weak sauce.
MisterQuiche
185 83 831
13 years ago
dang, true, i'll get my crayons out now!!!
lordsketch
381 1089 1433
13 years ago
Tristan - first of all, I think it's okay to criticize an artist when you think he's doing bad work.
but to be fair I've always been sticking it to him cause I don't like his work very much - to me it seems more like brand merchandise then art and Kaws himself more buisnessman then artist.
this recent work just makes me feel more strongly about it.
monsterforge
280 124 209
13 years ago
BRB... making my Snoopy toy into a KAWS toy.
lordsketch
381 1089 1433
13 years ago
Snoopy X monsterforge ftw!
monsterforge
280 124 209
13 years ago
Ha ha ha! Maybe!
Nah... I'd actually have some fun and paint it up!
Tristan
343 224 314
13 years ago
MisterQuiche and lordsketch: I agree with both of you. I typed the above comment facetiously, but with an alarming amount of sympathy. I also feel like the stuff I ought to like is not as cool as it used to be. However, barely one percent of Kaws and Dunny and Bearbricks interest me. Kaws probably didn't think this Snoopy would falter, but many on this forum think so. And here I am, seeing the same qualities in this figure that made me think the rest of Kaws is overpriced and underwhelming.
When I started collecting blindboxes in Portland and Chicago (on the few chances I happened to be in either of those cities) I had no idea how much vinyl I had already missed, and four years later I'm feeling crotchety and curmudgeonly and bitter that the artists I liked then either aren't producing stuff that appeals to me or they have stopped making vinyl altogether, and the rest of the toys that I like are unattainable due to rarity, expense, or access.
And the rest of the rest look like total boring shit. The debate over whether something is genuine or bootlegged, commercial or art, goes beyond what I care about. I love my collection, and I'd like to refine it, nurture it like a little toxic garden of non-biodegradable treasures. But increasingly it looks like there is less out there for me. So I feel old and mean compared to my enthusiastic collecting self of just two years ago, and with artists like Kaws I just sit back feel cynical. People are upset about Kaws doing a lukewarm x'ed-out-eyed Peanuts character. I guess I'm upset about caring less about vinyl in general.
Does anyone else doubt the intrinsic value of their hobby?
monsterforge
280 124 209
13 years ago
I like chocolate milk.
MisterQuiche
185 83 831
13 years ago
@tristan; i know where you are coming from, i have shed most of my collection in recent years but continue to look and hope to find new artists / pieces that excite me. For me recently my focus has been more on the resin producers, small home runs, more artist interaction and a feeling of being involved as opposed to just buying a really really expensive snoopy or tweety bird. (obviously the only factor that ultimately matters is do i like it!)
@ monsterforge, Blend some ice cream in there and im right with ya!
lordsketch
381 1089 1433
13 years ago
Tristan - there are many many more toys I want then money I have so I don't have those problems :P
there will always be crap, everywhere. But there is is still a lot of stuff I love.
J_Walrus
51 9 368
13 years ago
I normal situations, at least for me, there will always be lots of stuff I would like to have, but cannot based on the price/availability etc. But it's all part of the fascination of collecting, buying fancy furniture and so on: would be a damn more boring if you could get all the stuff all at once!
We as consumers/collectors have the responsibility to buy and collect the stuff we really like and want to support, and I have started to think about his more and more lately. About the facts how well are the companies treating the artists, in which conditions are the toys made (I don't want no-one to risk/damage their health making my toys) and so on. As one individual you can't do miracles, know every little details of conditions, but you can act via your buing habits and I think I'll do that much more in the future. This all comes to Kaws and how I really think that his toys and art has started in the recent years become more and more about milking the buyers/collectors. That in my mind tells that he doesn't really appreciate his fans a lot.
I myself have cut up my collecting almost totally at the moment, but in the future I'll surely buy only something really special and might head towards buying more art pieces during the years. For example nice painting/canvas by some brilliant artist.
For me my toys, although I have a really small collection compared to many here & it doesn't include any "high-end" vinyl toys, are little pieces of art and all have something that visually & mentally describes somehow who I am and what makes me happy.
But that's my rant about these things. Hat tip to Tristan for starting the conversation. Now others - continue.
MisterQuiche
185 83 831
13 years ago
Yes indeed, if nothing else, this (in my opinion) poor piece has opened up a lot of conversation from folks
J_Walrus
51 9 368
13 years ago
Bump ;)
hu8o
850 1828 327
13 years ago
I haven't bought Kaws releases for some time now, but I wouldn't mind having this one, lame though it is.
franko
103 27 12
13 years ago
im always trying to get my hands on a new kaws piece as broke as i am but this will def be on the last of my list. still love his art though. im sure he has a method to his madness
MaquetteCity
154 129 400
13 years ago
I have to admit,it leaves me cold,except for my love of Snoopy,there's nothing to this.
But again, this is one of the things I like about the toy-as-art world,we all have such different tastes.
I wonder what Schultz would have made of it ? :)
hektor
28 114 32
13 years ago
Bland, Bland Bland. Kaws has wacked out with this little offering. Concentrating more on the dollars than the idea. I've seen more originality in a game of naughts and crosses.
Draculaz77
355 333 84
13 years ago
Tweety & this has damaged KAWS's reputation
Draculaz77
355 333 84
13 years ago
no way.pinocchio is great