topqualitypro
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angel
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804 2515 1650
14 years ago
Do we need fake toys here?
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14 years ago
LOL interesting! Maybe it is useful to help people not to be fooled by bootleg figures? :P
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angel
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804 2515 1650
14 years ago
Let's make the Fake section then, this section might be huge :)
But there should be no manufacturer listed, only artist name, ok? -
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14 years ago
Bootlegs are not good for anyone. :(
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75 34 104
14 years ago
I think bootlegs are great for everyone (who isn't bothered about having the original!). Bootlegs that are a parody of the original piece are cool IMO, bootlegs trying to pretend to be the originals are a different kettle of fish.
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14 years ago
I have previously mentioned I don't like KAWS and I am not going to talk about KAWS as everyone has their own opinion about how original his creations are (I do consider them to be over priced pop art fyi)
Bootlegging devalues everything for everyone. Justifying it's fine just because the original one is expensive or the artist has "sold out" doesn't make it valid.
- Someone is making money off of someone's work.
- Devalues the brand/design, (which is the WORST thing) by having it in all these dodgy bootleg stores/flooding the market/low quality/consumers not understanding the product. NOT only for KAWS but for all designer toys.
- Someone may potentially be fooled. (Bootleg companies don't give a shit about their market) Just because you are "in the know" and it seems VERY clear its a bootleg, not everyone will.
- Official prices rise (this is a common practice by official companies to set the bootlegers clearly apart for consumer) This may also sets a price range for other designer toys.
Official re-productions are fine, just like posters of artwork. Yet most paintings are in the public domain anyway. Then again, paintings are a poor example as its not like someone is re-producing the brush strokes.
Is there a tipping point for finding what is considered "ok" to bootleg? What if some company decided to bootleg Uamou? -
14 years ago
I don't know how you can say I am missing the point? I said bootlegs are not good for anyone and you voiced other opinions, so I explained my stance. Devaluing through residual effects is very damaging.
To say that everyone knows the price point is a bit off. I first saw KAWS in a music mag, many people buy various culture mags on a whim. People truly do not know the market price of various toys. People still are shocked at the designer toys around the 50-80 mark, they wouldn't expect something to be much more than that for a KAWS piece.
People do not instantly understand the designer toy market; pricing and what artist is what. People are coming in from all directions and can easily be mislead.
I am sure you have friends that don't collect but have found some of your pieces really cool without knowing the price point, official packaging or where to get it from. Or friends that are shocked when you say "you might not want to drop that as it cost $200"
I am talking about bootlegs as a generalisation, it affects any market it touches. Companies pushing up market price point to distinguish it isn't a bootleg, is a common marketing strategy in other production fields.
A company can still be affected by the residual effect of bootlegs, even if they are not making direct profit off of the limited release they did. They release the next variant and people don't buy it as they have already purchased the previous bootlegged version for example or they don't buy their products any more as they want a level of exclusivity.
I agree with your stance on KR and their "limited' runs, yet its not a reason to bootleg them.
Bootlegs are not good for anyone as the residual effects affect the designer toy market as a whole.
- A legit store trying to sell official products can't compete vs the bootleg store down the street.
Stores selling bootlegs may not know who designed them and/or know they are "designer toys". They would have just ordered them from one of their suppliers thinking it was cool and not have known it was a bootleg.
- Suppliers don't sit back for hours doing research, they may be dealing with a whole seller that deals 10% in bootlegs without knowing it. Something slips through the cracks to store fronts with the belief that it is legit.
- It won't stop at KAWS (and hasn't) for bootlegging and will continue on.
- Bootlegs can get VERY close to the original and almost perfect quality. This can be easily witnessed with the bootleg anime toy scene.
Bootleg suppliers have a HUGE market share in various places around the world. Even my small little china town is filled with various bootleg products of toys the general consumer wouldn't know was a "designer" piece. A bootleg manufacture might come across Uamou design take it up and flood the market with it.
If someone buys a bootleg knowing it is a bootleg for the mentioned reasons above, good for them if they are happy. Yet it isn't good for the market at all and to believe otherwise is part of the problem with bootlegging. -
14 years ago
Catch you next time <3
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45 2 8
14 years ago
Nice you can see it but I know a lot of people who would mistake them for the original,good to know and identify the fakes and the authentic figures
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14 years ago
What are the identifiers on this piece to know its not original?
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72 77 44
14 years ago
They look cheap to me. The biggest difference between these and the real thing is that these are at least 5 or 6 inches shorter than the genuine Companions. It's not too difficult to spot that difference. Plus they look very shiny. The original Companions are matte.
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340 182 58
14 years ago
I don't really like the Kaws figures, but I would love to own something like this simply because it's a fake of something really exclusive. I think I may want it more than an original :)
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340 182 58
13 years ago
I now have these, but with matte surface. They're really nice
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13 years ago
The matte finish is actually fake.
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50 18 43
12 years ago
I think these are funny. I'd buy buy it just to put next to the original with his hand resting on his head.
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920 1 18
11 years ago
WTF is this doing here? This is NOT a bootleg, it's counterfeit, shouldn't even be listed here.
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45 2 8
14 years ago
I want to know who has a 4 foot to this version
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14 years ago
do feel free to take some photos and contribute to this website with those amazing pieces :)
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388 689 743
14 years ago
Someone enjoys bragging... :P
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14 years ago
I am guilty of bragging for showing what is in my collection here ;) Some brag more by adding stuff that they've pre-ordered and not actually received yet.
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388 689 743
14 years ago
I was actually referring to topqualitypro, but I don't think showing what is in your collection is bragging... much :)
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14 years ago
bragging is an important part of the pleasure of collecting.
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14 years ago
sorry who's doing what now?
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45 2 8
14 years ago
actually I wasn't really bragging on this one ,I wanted to get one of these for a friend,he's interested in this if anyone has to sell.
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388 689 743
14 years ago
Oh! I get it. So you want to know who has a 4 foot version rather than saying 'Who wants to know who has a 4 foot version *brag brag brag*' :) my apologies :)
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45 2 8
14 years ago
Yes I was asking not really bragging,words may have been written wrong.
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77 94 36
14 years ago
I have a friend who blows glass for a living and is really good. Lately he's been experimenting with some of the Kaws designs in glass. If anyone is semi interested send me a message and i can send pics, etc..... jgodinez302@yahoo.com
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angel
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804 2515 1650
14 years ago
That's interesting, why not post it here?
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77 94 36
14 years ago
Well it's glass ad custom, not mass produced and no 2 will ever be "identical" so it really doesn't have a place here. Just thought i'd throw it out there and see if anyone was interested.
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angel
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804 2515 1650
14 years ago
What about posting the link to the pictures here in comments section?
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77 94 36
14 years ago
Here is the link to some pictures. Mind you this is just the prototype to see how feasible the design would be in glass. So please don't be too critical :/ There are more coming.
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185 83 831
14 years ago
i reckon thats pretty nice glass work ;)
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angel
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804 2515 1650
14 years ago
With such glasswork skills you guys should make your own characters!
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109 122 99
14 years ago
Classic and now officially unaffordable!
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145 111 34
14 years ago
You wouldn't f'ing believe what just happened to me. So I won an OG Kaws 5YL last week on the Bay. After paying $50 for shipping, the seller shipped it in an ENVELOPE. But that's not even the worst part. When I open the envelope.... its foot rolls out. Words cannot express how royally pissed off I am right now.
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14 years ago
You can probably get a refund from eBay. Its happened with me before. It's a lot of trouble, but worth it.
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145 111 34
14 years ago
I'm working with the seller to get a refund. Would have rather had the Companion, though. Aside from the foot, its condition was actually better than the photos showed.
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145 111 34
14 years ago
hu8o- did you have to let eBay know you were sending it back? I don't want to ship it back and get burned. I already filed a complaint with eBay but I've only communicated with the seller through eBay, not PayPal's dispute center.
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14 years ago
I actually had to send a declaration that I had destroyed the items. No need to send them back. But this was after utter refusal of refunding from the seller. Sending the items back would have meant more expenses, and those were not refundable.
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145 111 34
14 years ago
I haven't reached that far down into my pocket yet... one day.... one day.
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45 2 8
14 years ago
I have the 4 foot
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77 109 46
14 years ago
...congrats...
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355 333 84
14 years ago
One day. 2011 I think
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2 4 54
14 years ago
just checked out the one for sale at http://projectmayhemstore.com... />
it has a scuff on its stomach :( -
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angel
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178 1 77
13 years ago
I have never payed over a grand for one figure. Damn you black dissected figure!
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355 333 84
13 years ago
Soon .....
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346 294 41
12 years ago
Why.
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10 183 628
12 years ago
i figure, if its seriously that much (no matter how much i like it), someone or something out there doesnt want me to own it. so i leave it at that and be on my merry way :)
although i did see a couple of clear kaws resin figures that i assume werent real on ebay since they were going for so cheap. funny thing is, the one i saw id still rather have that than this one. this one is pretty coo too. -
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45 2 8
14 years ago
have a 4 foot
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77 109 46
14 years ago
...congrats...
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50 18 43
12 years ago
I want. Anyone in the NY area willing to do a trade? I have all 3 smaller 16 inch dissects, and will throw in the 500 wood bearbrick ( great wood grain) a silver and green pusheadx kaws and I have other goodies if you have any wants to add lets do a deal :) save shipping costs and meet somewhere. Thnx!
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50 18 43
12 years ago
I also have to sweeten the deal a 1000 and 100 KAws Bearbricks. All 3 to add to the deal. :)
And a 1000 Blue Futura poitman Bearbrick.... but I dont know if thats soemthing anyone would want in this kind of deal. -
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topqualitypro
45 2 8
14 years ago
who made these?