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14 years ago
Nobody else thinks the angle of the head on these Jinnys is discordant (in a bad way)?
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angel
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14 years ago
It's very difficult shape. Nothing for the eye to hold on to and it's slipping :(
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14 years ago
Silicon is very good as capturing the texture of a material and resin is very good at reproducing it :)
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14 years ago
Yeah this is incredible. I had the same reaction: is this actually resin or did the gallery accidentally send me a wood version? I purchased this resin one-off from Scott's recent gallery show in Portland. I confirmed with both Scott and the gallery that it's resin. There are subtle differences in size and weight and coloring. I love it in resin!
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14 years ago
Just checked and the blue and brown colorways (one-off, hand-painted, HEAVY, 6-inch RESINS) are still available. $60 is a steal for this piece. The gallery people were really nice, too.
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14 years ago
No wood box for the resin version, but it did come well-packed in a cardboard box with stickers on the sides. Sometimes I'm glad when I get a toy with packaging I can recycle. I've now got boxes of toy boxes stacking up. I want to keep the packaging on a lot of toys, but at a certain point, it gets impractical!
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14 years ago
Jeff Pidgeon blogged about this once -
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14 years ago
SCREAMING SKY IS THE BEST!!! By far the best shop in StumpTown to feed your toy obsession.
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14 years ago
Agree, Screaming Sky is AWESOME.
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14 years ago
I didn't know about the texture on this.
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14 years ago
Is this still a custom when it was released by the guy who designed it? Wouldn't it just be a variant?
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77 109 46
14 years ago
he produced several of them so it's a small run not a custom IMO
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14 years ago
I presumed it was a custom as it was made for the TAG Red Carpet Kaiju Show. and surely a designer can release a custom version of their own toy? I currently have James Jarvis customising one of his tattoo me Keith toys for me.
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14 years ago
http://images.vinylpulse.com/... />
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14 years ago
O.k makes sense. I'll take it out of the custom :)
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14 years ago
Its fun to talk about each individual piece that people question if its a custom or not but it would be good to have a clear cataloguing definition. So just putting it out there:
For catalogue reasons, "custom" should be left for pieces made by other designers/artists in a non official manner (official being official collaborations/original artist works)
Even if its a one off variant/colourway/design done officially, Its still not a catalogue "custom"
Catalogue wise, official shows get tricky as esentually the original artists/designer is asking other artists/designers to collaborate with them for a show.
So there may need to be another definition where if a toy is used for the platform, such as sketchbot 2 show, it should be "custom"
Yet if the show has individual pieces, such as red kaiju, even if its just a one off, its not "custom" (if made original artist/designer.)
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14 years ago
I think this toy is filthy!
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14 years ago
Heh I agree jazzy :P not only that, Carlos has done some other really cool and insane designs! I would rather him do variants of them.
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14 years ago
LOL it seems he only prefers the female organ.
This is what I would like to see more of:
http://www.toyartgallery.com/wp-content/gallery/carlos-enriquez-gonzalez/cegonzalesbelzor023.jpg
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14 years ago
Maybe he will do boobs, then Doc will buy it ;)
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14 years ago
did someone say boobies? can't wait for my Tomorrow Queens :P
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14 years ago
Men are weird.
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14 years ago
I still believe that an artist can release a custom of their own toy. If you look at artists website such as mark nagatas max toy for example, then they have sections named "customs" which contain one of a kind paint jobs of their own toys.
Also I agree with idea that a custom can have more than one
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Yeah, in a previous toys wall I mentioned how mark refers to his releases as customs. Where you draw the line is interesting :)
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14 years ago
Is there an option to click on "I do NOT want this toy" ?
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14 years ago
Where do you display something like this?
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14 years ago
Bedroom! Hello ladies!
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14 years ago
Might work in a lesbian's bedroom... ?
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14 years ago
I have just seen this on the TAG store. And it is listed under the custom toys section? Not in the designer section?
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14 years ago
They would have tagged as a custom because it was part of the 'red carpet kaiju show' yet the toy itself was produced by TAG and I am sure we we will see it beyond the show.
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14 years ago
"Darling, this is my toy collection - these are Dunnys, they'e cute, right? that's Kaiju, it's japanese for "monster", over here are my 12" Hong Kong figures, and this is my giant monster vagina"
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I don't know... she might have a nasty collection of her own:P
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14 years ago
HEYO
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14 years ago
but the Red/Gold Mini Jumping Brain - Emilio Garcia, was also part of the 'red carpet kaiju show' yet this is in the designer toy section?
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14 years ago
Who knows, its easy to tick boxes incorrectly. Also they may also have no clear definition and more than one person inputting in the entries.
What is your own definition? It's easy to find contradictions on almost every artists website, I wouldn't use any artists websites as a definite answer to what is considered a custom, especially for cataloguing on rotocasted.
The following is what I believe should be used for the definition of what a "custom" is in Rotocasted catalogue:
To me, a "custom" is when an artist/designer is using another toy as a platform, even if its recasting parts in a non official manner.
If the original artist/designer uses their own toy, its a called a variation.
If the original artist/designer is commissioned by someone to make something exclusive for them, it's a "Commission piece" where you can specify the person that commissioned the piece as the producer.
If the original artists/designer allows another artist/designer to use their toy as a platform in an official manner its a collaboration. ( (name) x (name) is the commonly used naming)
As mentioned above in my first post, exhibitions get tricky and needs its own definition:
If the exhibition uses a toy as a platform, where only one figure is used by every artist, such as sketchbot 2 show, it should be "custom"
If the exhibition has individual pieces, such as red carpet kaiju, even if its just a one off, its not "custom" (if made original artist/designer or a collaboration) but "(exhibition name) variant"
If the artists/designer uses another artists/designers character design in an official manner, its a "collaboration" (Name x Name)
If the artists/designer uses another artists/designers character design in a non official manner, without using another toy as a platform. Its not a "custom" but its own piece.
If the artists/designer uses another artists/designers character design in a non official manner, using their own toy as a platform. Its not a "custom" but a "(name of their toy used) (name of other character) variant"
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@CoMus This is one awesome checklist.
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Sounds like a good idea. I will reformat it and make it a bit more comprehensive. (I will email it to you)
I will do it tomorrow some time.
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14 years ago
I just saw this. @CoMus, these are really good clarifiers!
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14 years ago
:D Cheers guys, positive response is appreciated. The list evolved in my mind through various conversations on Rotocasted. Fun community here :)
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14 years ago
So are you suggesting Rotocasted extend their menu categorizing system from toy library and Custom to:
Toy library (regular editions)
Variations
“Show” variants
Commission pieces
Collaborations
And Customs.
This seems excessive? Should we include bootlegs? Artist proofs? Prototypes?
This would work if you have just one library, and the toy specs/tags are categorized with your definitions. But having menu sub category's help navigation.
Or are you suggesting the custom section has a sub menu of variations, commissions, collaborations etc? Which will mean they are custom types?
How do you foresee rotocasted implementing your definitions?
My definition of a custom toy is unclear, hence my input into this discussion. If I look at the universal definition of custom, then I would say it is to put your own personal stamp, modification onto an existing object. You have made it personal to you.
So indeed I agree taking another artists toy with permission as a platform, and putting your own customization onto that toy is a collaboration. But surly it’s a custom collaboration? You have changed/modified the toy to your own taste?
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14 years ago
No need to add all of the possible variants to the interface. This list is needed to have a set of basic rules for adding toy to the library or custom section, because almost every self-produced toy opening a debate is it custom or not.
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So the toys will still go in the custom section? As custom AP, custom collaboration, custom show variants etc? then they are custom types.
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14 years ago
Sure. And I think we don't need special tagging group to sort all of the Custom Artist Proofs or Collaborations form the rest of the customs. We have plenty of ways to display that.
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So back to my original point. If the original artist/designer produces a one of a kind version of their own toy, I agree it is a variation. But the fact they have taken something and personalized it either with paint and or modification, then it’s a custom variation? And should be placed in the custom section.
What about this toy? Is it a "Commission piece" as it was commissioned by TAG? Is it a “Variant” as it can be seen as a variant / modification of Carlos’s Vagina brain monster? Is it a “red carpet kaiju” variant? As it was in the red carpet kaiju show?
how can we agree that commissions, variants and show variants are not custom?
If you commission something it is custom for you. If an artist produces a one of a kind hand painted variation for an exhibition, its custom painted by the artist.
I do not agree that none of the toys at the red carpet kaiju show were custom.
“Toy Art Gallery is proud to present its newest group show, Red Carpet Kaiju. TAG will debut Gonzalez’ controversial “Hierophany” toy, and has invited some of the best monster and kaiju-inspired artists from around the world to showcase their unique visions and talents within this strange and wonderful sub-genre of art toys. Their work spans from production toys and hand-painted customs to unique sculptures made from a variety of mediums.”
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amen brother lee, glad we got to the bottom of that one. I would say that if an artist states his or her work as custom everything beyond that is pure conjecture left for the collector.
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(I apologise that I do repeat myself a few times but I felt it was necessary to respond to various points lee made)
There is no need to make sub categories. I just wanted a list so people can clearly put into rotocasteds custom/non-custom library.
Its just one simple question:
"Is this toy using another artists/designers toy in a non official manner and/or made for an exhibition where only one figure is used by every artist? "
If you answer no, it shouldn't be in the custom library.
Once again; in the list, there is only two ways something can be considered to be a custom:
- a "custom" is when an artist/designer is using another toy as a platform, even if its recasting parts in a non official manner.
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- If the exhibition uses a toy as a platform, where only one figure is used by every artist, such as sketchbot 2 show, it should be "custom"
Everything else is not a custom and should be separated from the custom library and just put into the main library. (The type tag may be adjusted but "Designer toy" is good enough)
@lee
- "the fact they have taken something and personalized it either with paint and or modification, then it’s a custom variation? And should be placed in the custom section. "
Only custom if they used someone elses toy in a non official manner. Its just a "variation" if they used their own toy, not a "custom variation"
- "What about this toy? .....
how can we agree that commissions, variants and show variants are not custom?"
It can talked about in all of those categories but it wouldn't make this a custom piece as this toy is not using another artists/designers toy in a non official manner and/or made for an exhibition where only one figure is used by every artist.
- "I do not agree that none of the toys at the red carpet kaiju show were custom. "
I never said that but I guess the point should have been clearer.
(from list) - If the exhibition has individual pieces, such as red carpet kaiju, even if its just a one off, its not "custom" (if made original artist/designer or a collaboration) but "(exhibition name) variant"
That does need to be formatted to be clearer. "if made by original artist/designer or a collaboration" brings it back to the original question asking if it is custom or not.
Osiris Orion had a whole bunch of customs there, he used another artists/desginers toy in a non official way. His work is pimp and I love it.
@fliphappy Agree, hopefully this list will simply separate what is considered a custom on rotocasted.
The word 'custom' can be open to various interpretations, especially when you start using the word 'customisation'. I tried to make my list a clear cut answer as to avoid talks about if its a custom or not. -
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o.k. This is getting nowhere. If your going to condense your opinion to just one simple question:
"Is this toy using another artists/designers toy in a non official manner and/or made for an exhibition where only one figure is used by every artist? "
"If you answer no, it shouldn't be in the custom library."
If rotocasted want to use your limited categorization then so be it. I am going to listen to the wider audience who in my opinion are in a better position to define what is custom and what is not.
I agree this may not be a custom toy, hence i put it in the designer toy section. My issue is when it comes to an artists own custom variant, which you are so keen to dismiss.For example:
Vinyl pulse has numerous links to artist’s own custom variations. This link makes my point clearer.
“So many amazing shows coming up in the next couple months. This here is Paul Kaiju’s Custom Boss Carrion for the Red Carpet Kaiju show at Toy Art Gallery. What better figure to customize than your own. Paul always does such amazing detail work, as you can see on the Boss Carrion. The show takes place on Saturday, September 4th from 7-11PM.”
http://www.vinylpulse.com/2010/08/paul-kaiju-for-red-carpet-kaiju-0904.html
“What better figure to customize than your own” says it all for me. And notice how customize is also linked to custom.
Or what about my plastic heart who are selling Kathie Olivas Custom variants of her red bird:
“custom vinyl toys revolving around her post-apocalyptic themed group of cute but tainted characters.”
http://www.myplasticheart.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=MPH&Category_Code=0000UNINVITEDGUESTS&sort=name.asc
As for someone like Mark Nagata, well to many links to custom eyezons to mention. How about a bit of Ron English?
“Ron English, master of billboard popaganda, created roughly 40 hand-customized SupersizeMe figures”
http://www.vinylpulse.com/nycc_07/
And there are many more!
I cant see how major sites like vinyl pulse, artists and gallery's are getting this wrong? Anyway as @fliphappy says this is not life or death. I value your opinion, as I value anyone’s opinion. But I am not convinced your opinion is valid. So lets agree to disagree. And on that note I am also getting off the soap box. Adios! -
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Artists, other resources or anyone else might call it whatever they want. This website run by community and agreement on the terms is the corner stone of our efforts.
The reason of discussing the terminology is simple, separate one kind of toys from another by stylistic contexts with simple reason, clear library organization and consistency.
That's why we mark designer toys only as "designer toys", not as des figurines à des adultes, Urban Vinyl, Sculpture multiples, artist vinyl, etc.
I appreciate all of the comments, but if you don't really care why bother? Everybody is wrong on the internets.
What we do here is amateur art history exercise, so here's some further reading — http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
This piece, to me, is a variant or commission, call it wherever you want and put to the general Library, not custom.
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14 years ago
Let's call it a Designer toy and leave it at that. If there's more than one it should be a FHP or HP. Tired of these emails haha
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@Lee I agree with you that you can call them all "customs", I even mentioned previously about Mark Nagata and have said that the "custom" have multiple interpretations.
It still seems you don't understand what I am trying to write up. You are only referring to other websites and not realising why we need to separate custom/non-custom on rotocasteds library, its only about cataloguing reasons.
The list is just for a line in the dirt to determine what is considered a custom in the library. Its not limiting the categorisation; its expanding it. As you previously mentioned about this piece, you can have multiple categories for a single figure.
The custom section on the library separates the people that "custom" other peoples works from the people that release their own "original" works (This isn't referring to the originality of their works.).
If the artists/designer owns the property that they are "customising", it should be considered a "variant". Especially considering production painters are getting into the game now and can "custom" paint a huge batch. How many figures do you release before its not a "custom" ?? You can't say 1 as there are lots of artists/designers that release "original" 1 of 1 pieces or small batches. It doesn't have a clear cut line.
The word "Variant" can be used in all the mentioned websites you linked. "Variant" is exactly the same as "custom" but its trying to separate it for catalogue reasons on rotocasted. Other websites can easily jump around with jargon but this is just a cataloguing website.
There is no standard terminology, there never will be. Referencing other websites you will always find contradictions as there is no standard jargon. You can call it a "custom" with good reason with almost any toy release; at what point do you draw the line? That is the reasoning of the clear cut list.
@Shradical7 I just wanted to say hello, how is it going? Its a nice day here, which is good!!! It has been raining too much lately :( (this is so you can feel like you are getting something out of the email notification) -
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14 years ago
guys, there are two purposes for this discussion -
one is philosophical, and this one can and should go on and on.
The other is to make the lives of Rotocasted webmasters easier, and for that we need a clear and definitive list :)
that list will not be the ultimate truth, just the way we tag things here at Rotocasted
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14 years ago
That right :) ..... also we want to keep this image on the main page to make everyone feel uneasy :P
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14 years ago
@CoMus - it's working. I'm fed up of seeing this sparkly plastic vagina in the comments feed.
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13 years ago
just keeping it balanced on the front page...
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13 years ago
Eew!
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13 years ago
Jan, in Israel we have a saying parents say to their kids - "you don't say yuk about food"
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13 years ago
It's a bit red, does it have very bad thrush?
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13 years ago
Had a bit too much winkie and now a bit red from exhaustion? Oh my.
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11 years ago
does this vibrate?
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10 years ago
To answer your question this toy does not vibrate however it always seems to cause a buzz when talked about
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14 years ago
Aww... Was this released at SDCC?
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angel
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14 years ago
Benny at Tenacious Toys has these!
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9 years ago
Hi! I love your Domo collection! Do you have any extras that you are willing to sell?
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14 years ago
I am selling this new special edition Domo on ebay
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14 years ago
Whuh? When did this come out?
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14 years ago
released in Taiwan Toys Festival 2010~~
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angel
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14 years ago
Tenacious Toys has these. Just added to Where to Buy?
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14 years ago
Should be in the custom section, no?
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angel
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14 years ago
Nope, it's one of a kind original.
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14 years ago
Isn't a one of kind original a custom?
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angel
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14 years ago
This is a really good conversation to have. A CUSTOM can be a one-of-a-kind original (especially if the customizer has gone above and beyond to make something new out of the original toy). However, a ONE-OF-A-KIND ORIGINAL is not typically going to be a CUSTOM. In the case here, the talented Jimmy Foo has created an original figure with his own original sculpt. This would only be a custom, if Jimmy writes that underneath the purple, there is a Munny in there somewhere :)
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There are talks in multiple toy commentaries on Rotocasted. My reasoning for what is classified a custom:
Custom: Uses another toy as its platform, including re-casting parts. Therefore customising a toy.
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I feel there is a difference between "customizing" and "custom". I would define taking a platform toy and painting it or making it your own would be customizing or customization, however, making your own one of a kind toy would be a custom (as in custom made). IMHO.
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As toy design as we know it is relatively new, it may be helpful to reference an older practice to define the nature of the beast.
In furniture design, the term "custom made" tends to be only used if you were commissioned to do a unique piece for someone. The person commissioning the piece would set the design specifications for the custom made furniture, not the designer.
One of a kind pieces get made in furniture design often and are not considered custom pieces but new designs.
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14 years ago
Enter a contest and win this awesome Colonist — http://www.octobertoys.com/fo...
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Thanks for posting the competiton Sergey :D
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I think in this instance the term 'custom' is being confused with customised. Imo, to customise is to take an existing object and make alterations. A custom is essentially a commission with some kind of client brief. However, I regard this piece to be neither of the above as it's an original design....soooo... Between Jeremy and CoMus I'd say it's pretty much covered.
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angel
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805 2515 1650
14 years ago
Any idea when it was released?
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14 years ago
Yes, sorry, it was released in 2003!!
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14 years ago
Sweet, thanks!
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14 years ago
I got this through a guy parting with an awesome Michael Lau collection. I love toys with glasses, and this character is so great. Mine didn't come with the dog, but I got it at a good price :)
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13 years ago
I'm Parting with some of my toy collection, including Michael Lau toys- If you are interested- please message me.
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13 years ago
anyone willing to sell this? please message me
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13 years ago
@Paper8 let me know what Lau you have for sale
/>yepitsme110@ymail.com
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12 years ago
Series is Crazy Children 2
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10 years ago
Finally scored one to make up the pair.
Just gotta wait by the post box now.
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14 years ago
Black or white, they are both limited to 25 pieces.
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14 years ago
Black or white, they are both fabulous... (too bad I will never afford them)
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14 years ago
Well wicked! Hope to see some more affordable pieces soon.
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14 years ago
your hope came true :-)
the prostitute figure will retail for $78 -
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Yeah, saw that.....must have!!! NYCC exclusive, right?
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14 years ago
you can get her @ myplasticheart
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angel
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14 years ago
Wish I could afford it.
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angel
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amavevera, this might interest you -
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@Lordsketch
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A new procelain sculpture is coming out soon ! I can't wait...
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14 years ago
cool movie, thanx for sharing
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angel
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14 years ago
This is now one of my favorite figures in the whole wide world. It makes me smile.
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566 356 245
14 years ago
No! The silver ink is still smearing days after the fact! I feel like if the wind blows on it, it might just disappear. Ron signed it a second time in black Sharpie on the back of the torso, and that's nice and dry and crisp. I think he did both of your autographs in the silver pen, right? Maybe you should ask Kozik for a tip on how to dry it... :)
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14 years ago
I wish they wouldn't sign in silver....I have a set of 3 bears dunnys, that is STILL smudgy and can't be touched 2 years after the fact.
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14 years ago
I bought a set from Made by Monsters, but only want to keep the purple one, so if anyone want the green, let me know :D It is still sealed!!
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566 356 245
14 years ago
You went for it! Isn't it great? I hope you have received the Popaganda figure I sent you by now.
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jeremyriad
566 356 245
14 years ago
I'll take photos of this when it comes in. Stoked that these old MINDstyle colorways were a warehouse find. SKWAK is one of the most underrated artists in this scene. His art feels like the inside of my head.
jeremyriad
566 356 245
14 years ago
This is a sweet piece, and you can find them pretty cheaply on eBay due to some distributor clearance. They were originally priced at upwards of $100, and they're going at around $30 now. LOVE SKWAK! Even without all the color, he's great :)
amavevera
329 75 1144
14 years ago
actually, as far as I know, Mindstyle bad name is due to their shadiness in the relation with the artists (not paying them, not sending their APs), not about quality. I own toys from 2 series by Mindstyle (Mechtorians & serv-o-matics) and the quality is great.
jeremyriad
566 356 245
14 years ago
Yeah same as amavevera, I've been told TONS of awful stuff about MINDstyle's ethics and operations, but if it's possible to put all that aside, the toys themselves are done really well. If you compare SKWAK's Maniac to SKWAK's KR Dunny, you can see what I mean. I only wish 1) MINDstyle didn't treat its artists so badly and 2) There was a green colorway of this piece :)
CoMus
171 468 619
14 years ago
How do they treat them bad? Not pay them for their work? Do they say "we are making a toy of your artwork, that is your payment"?
Interested in this I am.
jeremyriad
566 356 245
14 years ago
Me too. I'm trying to find time to write an article about it, but in the meantime, ask any artist who has worked with MINDstyle. I've found most to be quite open to talking about it. For instance, Sket One and SKWAK.
CoMus
171 468 619
14 years ago
It would make an interesting article! I wonder what they will say? It may be hard for the toy producers to write up a contract for correct payment? Especially considering they are bearing all the risk!
But my approach is from a product design background. Many designers work on products that don't sell but then you get one that sells like mad. Its great for portfolio (if the company lets you use it) but you were only paid an hourly rate (and/or lump sum) and the company is making millions off of a product you designed as they did all the extra legwork.
Yet as a toy, you are directly selling it for art,you would think the payment would be something like this: (A lump sum upfront) + (% royalties) + (Correct exposure, such as artists name on box)
Who knows, looking forward to your article when you do it (check out some product designer horror stories too :P)
yourjello
235 215 55
14 years ago
OMG Mindstyle is my favorite toy maker. I love their toy quality and the boxes that toys come in are amazing and high quality. I haven't heard of this shadi-ness though I can tell you, that I emailed Skwak a year ago to ask if he had any of the Maniac colorways and he emailed me back to say no, but if I ever found them, he'd like one. So apparently he didn't get his artists proofs.
I just bought the black/black and the black/blue off ebay for 29.95 SCORE. I have ALL Skwaks stuffz. :)
LoungeCore
101 265 128
14 years ago
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hu8o
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14 years ago
I need the red one!
yourjello
235 215 55
14 years ago
More info re: my post above. I talked to Skwak via email. He told me he never authorized the release of any of the Maniac Colorways (not blue, not black, not red). And he never got any proofs or any of the productions. Tsk. Tsk. Mindstyle. Tsk. Tsk.
jeremyriad
566 356 245
14 years ago
Yep, this is what I'm hearing from several of the MINDstyle artists. Tsk tsk indeed. And I am writing an article.
yourjello
235 215 55
14 years ago
You go J!!