TonyStark
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angel
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804 2515 1650
14 years ago
Do we need fake toys here?
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14 years ago
LOL interesting! Maybe it is useful to help people not to be fooled by bootleg figures? :P
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angel
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804 2515 1650
14 years ago
Let's make the Fake section then, this section might be huge :)
But there should be no manufacturer listed, only artist name, ok? -
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14 years ago
Bootlegs are not good for anyone. :(
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75 34 104
14 years ago
I think bootlegs are great for everyone (who isn't bothered about having the original!). Bootlegs that are a parody of the original piece are cool IMO, bootlegs trying to pretend to be the originals are a different kettle of fish.
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14 years ago
I have previously mentioned I don't like KAWS and I am not going to talk about KAWS as everyone has their own opinion about how original his creations are (I do consider them to be over priced pop art fyi)
Bootlegging devalues everything for everyone. Justifying it's fine just because the original one is expensive or the artist has "sold out" doesn't make it valid.
- Someone is making money off of someone's work.
- Devalues the brand/design, (which is the WORST thing) by having it in all these dodgy bootleg stores/flooding the market/low quality/consumers not understanding the product. NOT only for KAWS but for all designer toys.
- Someone may potentially be fooled. (Bootleg companies don't give a shit about their market) Just because you are "in the know" and it seems VERY clear its a bootleg, not everyone will.
- Official prices rise (this is a common practice by official companies to set the bootlegers clearly apart for consumer) This may also sets a price range for other designer toys.
Official re-productions are fine, just like posters of artwork. Yet most paintings are in the public domain anyway. Then again, paintings are a poor example as its not like someone is re-producing the brush strokes.
Is there a tipping point for finding what is considered "ok" to bootleg? What if some company decided to bootleg Uamou? -
14 years ago
I don't know how you can say I am missing the point? I said bootlegs are not good for anyone and you voiced other opinions, so I explained my stance. Devaluing through residual effects is very damaging.
To say that everyone knows the price point is a bit off. I first saw KAWS in a music mag, many people buy various culture mags on a whim. People truly do not know the market price of various toys. People still are shocked at the designer toys around the 50-80 mark, they wouldn't expect something to be much more than that for a KAWS piece.
People do not instantly understand the designer toy market; pricing and what artist is what. People are coming in from all directions and can easily be mislead.
I am sure you have friends that don't collect but have found some of your pieces really cool without knowing the price point, official packaging or where to get it from. Or friends that are shocked when you say "you might not want to drop that as it cost $200"
I am talking about bootlegs as a generalisation, it affects any market it touches. Companies pushing up market price point to distinguish it isn't a bootleg, is a common marketing strategy in other production fields.
A company can still be affected by the residual effect of bootlegs, even if they are not making direct profit off of the limited release they did. They release the next variant and people don't buy it as they have already purchased the previous bootlegged version for example or they don't buy their products any more as they want a level of exclusivity.
I agree with your stance on KR and their "limited' runs, yet its not a reason to bootleg them.
Bootlegs are not good for anyone as the residual effects affect the designer toy market as a whole.
- A legit store trying to sell official products can't compete vs the bootleg store down the street.
Stores selling bootlegs may not know who designed them and/or know they are "designer toys". They would have just ordered them from one of their suppliers thinking it was cool and not have known it was a bootleg.
- Suppliers don't sit back for hours doing research, they may be dealing with a whole seller that deals 10% in bootlegs without knowing it. Something slips through the cracks to store fronts with the belief that it is legit.
- It won't stop at KAWS (and hasn't) for bootlegging and will continue on.
- Bootlegs can get VERY close to the original and almost perfect quality. This can be easily witnessed with the bootleg anime toy scene.
Bootleg suppliers have a HUGE market share in various places around the world. Even my small little china town is filled with various bootleg products of toys the general consumer wouldn't know was a "designer" piece. A bootleg manufacture might come across Uamou design take it up and flood the market with it.
If someone buys a bootleg knowing it is a bootleg for the mentioned reasons above, good for them if they are happy. Yet it isn't good for the market at all and to believe otherwise is part of the problem with bootlegging. -
14 years ago
Catch you next time <3
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45 2 8
14 years ago
Nice you can see it but I know a lot of people who would mistake them for the original,good to know and identify the fakes and the authentic figures
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14 years ago
What are the identifiers on this piece to know its not original?
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72 77 44
14 years ago
They look cheap to me. The biggest difference between these and the real thing is that these are at least 5 or 6 inches shorter than the genuine Companions. It's not too difficult to spot that difference. Plus they look very shiny. The original Companions are matte.
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340 182 58
14 years ago
I don't really like the Kaws figures, but I would love to own something like this simply because it's a fake of something really exclusive. I think I may want it more than an original :)
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340 182 58
13 years ago
I now have these, but with matte surface. They're really nice
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13 years ago
The matte finish is actually fake.
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50 18 43
12 years ago
I think these are funny. I'd buy buy it just to put next to the original with his hand resting on his head.
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920 1 18
11 years ago
WTF is this doing here? This is NOT a bootleg, it's counterfeit, shouldn't even be listed here.
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angel
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804 2515 1650
14 years ago
It's $2000 on eBay
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85 13 6
14 years ago
2000 2000 2000.. thats alot. looking to pay 1000
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angel
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804 2515 1650
14 years ago
It was $700-900 couple of years ago and will be $3500 in a couple of years, I guess.
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14 years ago
No, it won't. One was sold not long ago on eBay for a little bit over USD 800.
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32 5 1
14 years ago
well, I really hope it comes up again
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85 13 6
14 years ago
YEA YOU CANT PAY ATTENTION TO BUY IT NOW PRICES. THAT STUFF JUST SITS
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109 122 99
14 years ago
Nice!
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angel
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432 4 822
14 years ago
$1525 on eBay, 2/16/11
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50 18 43
12 years ago
I got a great wood grain version of this. Ive seen some bad wood grains also. its all about the woodgrain baby.
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17 1 15
11 years ago
$3600 on eBay Update 4/19/14.
So it was a pretty good prediction 3 years ago sergeySafonov(:
And prices will keep rising! -
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160 26 13
8 years ago
$7850 on eBay - 9/19/2016
It keeps on rising -
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211 895 42
8 years ago
i have to agree with @saucemoola's comment from five years ago - just because someone is asking for $X on ebay doesn't mean it's worth that much or will sell for that much. an actual closed auction sold price is really the only useful info in that arena.
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145 111 34
14 years ago
Just got mine today... It's bittersweet. Collecting will never be the same again for me. I guess I'll just have to save up for the mono.
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365 108 162
14 years ago
Nice haul. Love to see one of these in person. *Drools*
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2 4 54
14 years ago
They are great pieces, although many have standing problems.
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355 333 84
14 years ago
Just got one over Easter . Perfect with no leaning problems. Was boxed most it's life . Very happy to finally get it. Want the black & mono too though...( there are 1000 made of these brown dissected , not 500 as described here. 500 black & 500 mono. )
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38 1 4
13 years ago
I have one for sale from Vancouver Canada.
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82 22 51
13 years ago
wow! such an awesome price! :/
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13 years ago
better prices on ebay...
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128 0 1
12 years ago
Isnt the size 16?
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50 18 43
12 years ago
I paid $285 for mine when it came out, lol.
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355 333 84
11 years ago
Size is 15" , I paid $1000...
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angel
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1881 1896 2109
11 years ago
fxd. thx.
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230 163 19
13 years ago
thx mistachael
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135 101 28
13 years ago
Awesome piece
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50 18 43
12 years ago
This figure is the only reason I started collecting Kidrobot. I loved this when it dropped. So unique at the time.
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77 94 36
9 years ago
The time is near where I am actually contemplating selling off my KR mascot collection (this being one of the many I own). I will be gathering some pictures and details soon to list on ebay, but if anyone is interested in the meantime. Please feel free to email me directly @ "jgodinez302@gmail.com". I prefer to get rid of them all together in bulk to a good home, but I understand most people don't have that kind of cash to drop. So contact me for further details or requests.
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239 62 43
14 years ago
By far one of the sickest toys you could get your hands on!
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1 0 1
13 years ago
Who wants to buy this from me?
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18 9 294
13 years ago
Dame Edna?
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180 314 28
13 years ago
How much do you want for it?
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angel
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154 129 400
12 years ago
Another successful Rotocasted deal! Many thanks! :)
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95 534 124
12 years ago
I'm happy it found a good new home ! ;-) Thanks !
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50 18 43
12 years ago
Another holy grail piece. Love mine.
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angel
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154 129 400
8 years ago
One of these up on EBay at the moment. :)
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109 12 1
8 years ago
At $225 that's not bad. I would have expected a bit more.
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310 45 46
13 years ago
I have this for sale! Email me @ aclockworkhotdog@yahoo.com
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50 18 43
12 years ago
this colorway messes with my head. genius again ewok!
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LoungeCore
101 265 128
14 years ago
"Pretty in pink"
TonyStark
50 18 43
12 years ago
really, only 40? I had no idea.
exponata
94 18 1
6 years ago
someone sell it?